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Posted by: Sando Jul 4 2010, 05:45 PM

Hey guys,

Thanks for another LAN. We all really enjoyed ourselves, and we hope you did too.

We appreciate your feedback on how we can improve, so we ask for a brief summary on your thoughts on how we can achieve a better LAN.

We will be conducting an online survey in the coming weeks, and this will also have the door prize attached to it, but in the mean time, let your thoughts flow.

Thanks, and see you on October 9-10!
-the Respawn Team

Posted by: seekz Jul 4 2010, 05:55 PM

Does anyone else feel that the atmosphere isn't present anymore..?

Posted by: VampyreCyrus Jul 4 2010, 08:01 PM

This respawn was my first lan party in Melbourne and I know that I enjoyed myself.

Could have done without the cold air-con at times but other than that it was good.

Posted by: TechL Jul 4 2010, 08:34 PM

Nothing wrong for me, except the competitions being delayed and such. :/

I also feel like this respawn went way too quick.

Posted by: Glasseater Jul 4 2010, 10:24 PM

the comps are always goin to be hard to get goin on time. there is issues that cant always be forseen and there isnt enough time on the weekend to allow for that. I think the lan was good a lot more ppl stayed up later this time round which was good to see and i only saw a couple of kids in tears so who can complain

Posted by: Knuckles10 Jul 4 2010, 10:55 PM

Was a great LAN, network was good, power was good. Food and drinks were well priced as usual.

I do have one complaint though. I got repeated threats of booked seat loss if not checked in by 2pm. I had the guy with the iPad come around twice saying if my friends arent here by 2pm then we are going to lose the seats. Both times I told him that they were all on their way (we all live about an hours drive away). Yet, 3 seats away from me there was 4 seats where not a single representative of the group was even there. For the record, they never showed.

When my friends arrived (just before 2) THEY got threatened at the door saying "WE WERE ABOUT TO GIVE YOUR SEAT TO THE NEXT PERSON THAT WALKED IN THE DOOR"

I understand the need for this considering the turn out from the last LAN (the one a few months ago). It wasnt even so much what was being said, it was the attitude about it, it was in the "threat zone" rather than "just for your information zone".
I recommend that you give up the seats of booked groups who dont have any representative there first.

Posted by: SirSquidness Jul 4 2010, 11:26 PM

Hey Knuckles,

I apologise for the confusion. Respawn's seat booking policy is that a pre-paid and booked seat is booked for the entire LAN.

Reserved seats for players who have not prepaid are forfeited at 2PM, and I dare say this is where the confusion arose - this was the first time we have implemented a prepay and seat reservation system.

-SirSquidness

Posted by: Deka Jul 5 2010, 01:57 AM

can we get lights off at like 10pm people wana sleep and i get glare

Posted by: I.esus Jul 5 2010, 05:22 AM

^ I think lights off at 10pm is too early.

Anyway, my thoughts on v17... are 'boring'.
All I saw people playing was CoD, CS, TF2 and Blur. Yawn.
I asked a couple times on DC if anyone wanted to play some ARMA II: Operation Arrowhead, but never got a response. It seems the kiddies are too busy playing MSN group conversation to play games.

The CoD comp sucked... getting knocked out by two pro teams straight up is shit.
I wonder, in future, if there should be a serious CoD comp for the pro teams (with prizes) and a simultaneous CoD 'fun' comp for less serious, less experienced teams (with no, or a very minor prize)

So the lower teams can still have some fun without getting obliterated 13-0.
Otherwise, to be honest, there's no real point in the lesser teams even playing in the comp.

I had no interest in any of the funcomps that were run, either.
All boring and/or shit games (subjective, I know).

And the Quake 3 comp is WAY too late. A friend I go with wanted to play in it, but didn't want to sit around 'til 10am just to play. What happened to the original midnight slot for it?

I also had half a row of fuckwits behind me, constantly yelling at each other, yelling shit out to people making announcements, etc. If getting removed from the LAN wasn't a reality, at least one of them would probably be quite injured right now. I was getting quite angry. Though it was amusing joining the CoD server he was in and teamkilling him and hearing him yell, OH WHAT THE HELL THAT SAME GUY KILLED ME AGAIN!!!

As soon as we got there and started setting up, I knew they'd be an issue just from the way they were acting (coupled with half-standing in our way at the time).

Also, with the lower player count, I thought maybe there'd be more spacing down the aisles, but found this wasn't the case. There's still people squeezing through... and I had zero room to set up my steering wheel without blocking the aisle almost entirely to play some decent racing games that aren't that arcade rubbish everyone else was playing... so it was left in the car.

I think that's about all I can think of.

Posted by: Zardoz Jul 5 2010, 12:45 PM

Would you like milk and cookies with that?

On a more serious note, we will look into the best time to do this. Unfortunately some of the competitions (eg, AFK) require venue lighting to actually happen.

Posted by: Redback Jul 5 2010, 12:50 PM

10pm is pretty early for sleeping

If it was up to me i'd set 2am-10am as a time for sleeping, with no PA ect during that time

Posted by: Zardoz Jul 5 2010, 12:56 PM

How can we make the event more 'interesting'? We can probably do an announcement over the mic if we want to get any ARMA II games together but I don't know how many other players play it - but we're happy to help organise games.

What would you prefer we play for the shorter games? Blur is a fairly new game, hardly 'yawn'.

Posted by: EvilSeven Jul 5 2010, 01:12 PM

That or organise the comp so that less experienced teams get matched together.

Posted by: oohms Jul 5 2010, 03:41 PM

In regards to funcomps, we are always open to suggestions, but they should be really common or free to distribute.

Posted by: I.esus Jul 5 2010, 04:44 PM

Some different games, I feel would be nice.
Like I said, I mentioned ARMA II in DC and nobody responded... though it's a fairly complex, time-consuming game and I guess I didn't really expect a response.

Though ARMA II: Operation Arrowhead is better (it's a standalone expansion), imo.

Some other games I think might be good to play just to change/spice things up a little (not neccessarily for comps or funcomps);
AvP (2010) Infestation.
DiRT 2 - Rally or Trailblazer.
Splinter Cell Chaos Theory Versus (Can be played without installing the single player game so Starforce isn't an issue) - though it's fairly deep and I'm not sure how many people would 'get it'.
Left 4 Dead (does LAN work in this? I don't remember) - the versus type mode.

I dunno, I can't think of anything else.

As for Blur, it's extremely yawn... new or not.
I don't like arcade racers, such as GRID/Blur/Split Second and so on... the only arcade-ish racing game I enjoy is DiRT 2... the rest are all sim racers, like iRacing, GTR2, RBR etc.

I'd mention playing some sim racers, but I sort of already did in my racing games thread... I can't imagine enough players have steering wheels to play them (as on full simulation settings, no driving assists... keyboard and mouse is impossible).

Am I the only person that's sick of playing the same old shit at Respawn? Or are there others? Maybe they're too lazy to post.

I don't know.

Anyway... opinions voiced!
(And make the Q3 comp earlier! )

Posted by: dead_man Jul 5 2010, 05:00 PM

i here what your saying, unfortunatly most people at lans want games that are simple and easy to get into.

L4D2 scavange could be an option, however lack of time on saturday means ill need to push through some comps into sunday morning.

ill keep people informed

-Dead_Man

Posted by: eDGe Jul 5 2010, 05:20 PM

Im enjoying my Tt Keyboard, and was a good lan.

Players also should ban the vuvuzella imo, 2am isnt the time nor the place.

Posted by: Goob Jul 5 2010, 05:22 PM

Lan was good, speeds were good.
Didn't appreciate the attitude of some admins.
Also, since when are lans over run by 9 year olds?? Got a bit sick of kiddies constantly bumping into mine and my friends seats around me.

Posted by: Glasseater Jul 5 2010, 05:22 PM

i managed to u get a few random games going by asking on dc. L4d for example was one that we played for a while. i also found even walking around seeing what ppl are playing then joining in with that works just gotta get out there.

Posted by: Guni Jul 5 2010, 05:24 PM

Everything went well. The games running over time were annoying but that cant really be helped. The steam issued were quite annoying aswell but thats more valves fault, thankfully Sando saved me .


Other than that, twas fun

Posted by: xargon Jul 5 2010, 05:27 PM

was a really good lan, apart from steam not working no real issues here. thx guys.

Posted by: Ultimate_Sacrifice Jul 5 2010, 06:27 PM

With Double Elim this should not have been the case.... all the good teams win the first round and are in the winners bracket, so you dont have to verse them till they loose a game which should only be semi finals maybe 1/4 finals.

Quake would be very good if we ran it earlier and double elim for the same reason the CoD comp is. It was fun to have the as well as the Duels i think if i run it again same type of thing jsut at a time where 20 people will want to play Start 12pm and run till its done just in between all the other stuff? because it is a game where you can just play a 10 min match then do what ever for a while till the other guy wants to play easy with 1 v 1 stuff

Posted by: _Andrew_ Jul 5 2010, 07:48 PM

1 of the best respawns so far , i really like how you tackled the issue of people leaning in there seats by increasing the space between tables even if it was just in my area it was nic. but on a sad note there were alot of little kids which were an irrataion but what can you do there is no age restriction.

Posted by: I.esus Jul 5 2010, 08:04 PM

Should not have been, but seemingly was for my team.

Posted by: Redback Jul 5 2010, 08:17 PM

SRsly, whats with the unco people who cant walk down the isles without walking into chairs. my isle was pretty wide and the people behind me left saturday night, and on sunday people were still walking into my chair.

Posted by: Rangers Jul 5 2010, 08:24 PM

I enjoyed the lan :>

Still thought the competitions have issues but that is something that cannot be helped delays and such, everyone knows it is going to happen. Best thing is for everyone to stop complaining about it and try and make sure their shit is together so it runs as smoothly as possible.

Big issue for me is that i missed ALOT of announcements. I missed the GRiD comp and a few others, not to mention poker. With competitions that you are down on the intranet for the respawn notifier didn't work for me in that sense. I only received two notes on that which were general ones sent out to everyone.

As for I.esus, you setting up your racing wheel is your perogative but don't get cut over it. Honestly that's just selfish of you, you can play them with your wheel. You pay for your spot and to be honest i would rather the rows as they are now then more space and less players. Next time try to reserve a spot in the annex which has more space

I also don't understand your hatred of GRiD lol, I assume it's because you're bad at it? As you should be aware GRiD and DiRT2 are both made by the same studio (codemasters) and have the same engine, physics and interface. Only difference is the STYLE of racing. DiRT is made to be a rally game (just in case you missed that) and that is almost the only form of racing GRiD does not feature for obvious reasons since rally games are fairly popular standalone.

Credit to the eats of tank, food and drink were well priced as usual. I missed the bacon, pancakes and baconcakes at the morning bbq

As for the whole seating arrangment issue, i feel this needs to be sorted out better for next respawn i understand that this was a trial. I feel that the prepay system is good for respawn to ensure they get the money they need to run the event. Lets face it, they need money to run a great event which it normally is.

Respawn has always worked on a first come first served system for registration. While this is not a perfect system IMO it is the best. So keep the prepay system but PLEASE only make the prepay option to the top 400 or whatever the player cap is. It is unfair on those who get bumped down because someone in the waiting list prepays. IF you want to come to respawn you should pay attention as to when the registration opens. If you are unable to register at that time for some reason, either use your phone which most people can nowadays or get a friend to do it for you. This is probably the topic which annoyed me the most because you werent guaranteed a seats unless you were in the top 200 when registration was opened.

Besides that great event guys, and i look forward to attending again

P.S have fun at reloaded guys

Posted by: Redact Jul 5 2010, 08:34 PM

while this may sound biased coming from a tf2 player, have you considered moving tf2 to a more prime time spot?

this month i noticed MORE teams registered for tf2 than for css (17 for tf2 as compared to 14 for css), yet the competition was packed with drop outs due to the time slot being in the impossible hours of the morning due to (yet again) other games getting delayed and thus tf2 being delayed

css is a VERY staple game for the lan, and im not implying that it is un-important or should be shafted, im just saying that maybe the priority of the general players of this lan has tf2 at a higher spot than css, but people play css due to the fact its at a good time for them


reguardless otherwise everything was great, we came so late but there was still ample space due to numbers being lowered, pre-paid system worked a charm, saw the soccer and played plenty of smash with friends

the more you make tf2 accessible, the more it will grow!, and css is far from growing (right now at least if you look at teams/month the past few months)

not my decision to make, maybe have a vote or something before v18

Posted by: I.esus Jul 5 2010, 08:40 PM

I am aware GRID and DiRT 2 are made by the same guys, and that they use the same engine... but they do not use the same physics. Actually, some big name rally guys helped out on DiRT 2 to help tweak the car physics to improve the feel over the really bad car physics that DiRT 1 had.

It's quite different, though I feel the cars still don't slide enough, but it's fun for an arcadey game.


Oh, and I am fine at GRID when using a controller or keyboard... but the car physics still suck, and I do not generally like arcade racing games. DiRT2 is about the only exception.

As for setting up the wheel, what's selfish about keeping the player count at 400 and spacing out the aisles a bit more, to give more walking room for everybody, as well as a little extra general room for people in a position such as my own, who may want to set up a wheel, but currently can't due to space issues?

Either way, it was merely a suggestion... but if it is not taken into consideration I will book seats on the side with the huge walkway next time so I have space to race.

Posted by: Maelstrom Jul 5 2010, 08:50 PM

TF2 at 9am Sunday I reckon (or whenever admins wake up). Means more people stay on Sunday, and there shouldn't be much of a clash with starcraft players.

Except for me and I am bad at Starcraft

Posted by: dead_man Jul 5 2010, 09:12 PM

The problem was last lan we had the poorest turnout for TF2 ever, it was moved to an earlier slot and only had 5 teams register and even with delaying trying to get more teams involved only 3 ended up showing.

moving to an earlier slot was actually counter productive, I believe running it earlier on sunday may show different results as evident by games such as starcraft and Q3 @ V16.

After last lan I wasnt even sure i wanted to waste my time with TF2 but this time showed me different, saying that I just dont have the time or the resources to run TF2 during the day on saturday. I am however looking at moving it onto sunday morning along with a few other comp's aswell, for multiple reasons.

its become my firm belief that I need to spread the comps out more and let people sleep/rest during the night so they are ready to game more in the morning

if there are any issues please let me know

-Dead_Man

Posted by: Maelstrom Jul 5 2010, 09:37 PM

This might be an idea. Have an admin or a gopher wander around and report on what people are playing over Notify or the PA.

There's always the option too for people to start a server (or request an admin to start a server) and ask over PA if anyone else wants to play.




Start in offline mode, and try to get online later on in the evening when no-one else is trying. Too many people trying to authenticate at the same time.

Posted by: Autofix Jul 5 2010, 09:41 PM

I had a great time in the Starcraft comp but my only issue is that there was only 9 people that actually played. I know there's not much you can do considering it's a 12 year old game, but hopefully the SC2 release gets more people interested.

Having it at 9am is fine if you actually sleep 'early', but moving other comps to the same slot as Starcraft could drop the numbers for it even lower, which detracts from the whole competition thing, the same way it did for TF2.

Posted by: Danog Jul 5 2010, 09:50 PM

That was my vuvuzela. It was only to be played after one of my friends won a competition / in the Germany vs Argentina match. I was asleep when the "disruption" happened.

Posted by: priorax Jul 5 2010, 11:26 PM

My biggest annoince this lan wasn't our fault, it was Valve's, it took me the better part of 5 hours to get mine and 2 of my friends TF2 running, and even then, one of theirs wasn't working by the time the comp came around...

Posted by: priorax Jul 6 2010, 12:34 AM

Another point, notifier, it is there but I rarely see updates. Am I wasting what little resources it uses or should it be used more?

Posted by: Shadow Reaper Jul 6 2010, 01:34 AM

Personal experiences:
* Lights were on way too late - 2am is a resonable time to kill them as all comps are suppose to have finished according to the website I read.
* Announcements weren't made for the later comps for when they started, I noticed this especially for poker. Suggestion is for a global announcement for every competition to be made though the notification system as well as the speaker system
* Check-in, I arrived 30 min late with almost no queue to get in. Pre-Paid line was easy and simple. Though I do agree with a option for the players in the top 400 for example for a 400 person lan to be able to pre-pay. This ensures fairness as well as allows people who want to pay to be able to do so.
* Sell nerf guns and bullets at the venue - makes for more fun to shoot the vuvuzella blowers, although I don't think the vuvuzella will show it's face again as it was a world cup thing
* Admins were awesome and to me very helpful, kudos to you for running an awesome event

Posted by: atticus Jul 6 2010, 05:33 AM

Very much enjoyed v17!

For what it's worth, I'm strongly opposed to pushing TF2 forward to a Sunday morning timeslot and I equally strongly doubt it will have a positive impact on the amount of participation. In fact, while I can appreciate the need to hold some things on Sunday, I think it's time to accept the reality that 9 AM Sunday is no time for any serious competition because the majority of players either don't sleep or get a very small amount of sleep at Respawn and are in no condition to play competently by then, let alone feeling rested. I would love to participate in a Quake duel tournament and Starcraft, but I don't bother because I'm a zombie in the morning. I definitely wouldn't appreciate it if I had to play my primary competition at such an hour.

Posted by: I.esus Jul 6 2010, 07:42 AM

Not exactly the solution to the issue a lot of people were having.
Steam was asking many people to log in (even though previously, before coming to Respawn, passwords were saved it was all updated and working fine), so they couldn't even get to starting it in offline mode.

Personally, I had to hook up my N900 to my PC and use it as a modem so I could log in to Steam and set it to Offline mode from there...

Other people used Sando's 3G internets, from what I hear.

Posted by: xevious Jul 6 2010, 09:46 AM

Aparently: dont quote me on this but

if you pull the network cable out
log out
log back in again
Start steam

it wants to start in offline mode anyway so?

Just what a friend told me

Posted by: Tank Jul 6 2010, 10:59 AM

You know how hard it is to get nerf guns, right? (fyi; it's HARD )

thanks very much everyone

Posted by: I.esus Jul 6 2010, 11:32 AM

That's only if the login name and password are previously saved.
Though for many, it HAD been previously saved (such as myself), but Steam had wiped it somehow, for some reason. So it asked for the password to log in instead.

So it's impossible to get to offline mode without having logged in online first, for said issue.

Posted by: Shub0xx Jul 6 2010, 11:34 AM

It seemed, at least to me, that after running the update, it cleared all saved login information.

Posted by: DArenberg Jul 6 2010, 12:18 PM

5 hours for steam to come on line was really annoying. Not Respawn's fault, just annoying, yes I tried all the snake oil methods.

Posted by: Shub0xx Jul 6 2010, 02:08 PM

There were several good things about this LAN compared to the last one.

The reduced number of gamers was welcomed, as there was more room between tables for movement up and down the hall. I think that hall isn't big enuf to safely host a 500 player event.

As I was able to attend on Friday and help set up, I'd like to know who's decision it was to change the max number of gamers from 400 to 450 on Friday night after the tables, power and network had been set up. Sure, we only got 402 overall, but if the extra 50 had showed, there would not have been enuf room for everyone, and still have space for AFK comps.

The pre-pay option was excellent. But I do need to agree with other posts, that the prepay option should've only been available to those in the top 400 registrations. Didn't make it fair to those who got in and registered early.

The decision to limit the number of prepays to 200 is a good decision as well. Allows those without access to electronic payments to still b able to attend the event.

I'm not going to complain about the comps running late, because we all know that there were network issues. I know that gamestah was running his commentary to his site, but I think it was also being multicasted across the entire network. Could this been one of the things causing network issues, or were there other factors involved?

That's all I can think of for the moment, may have more later.

Posted by: drunkees Jul 6 2010, 03:30 PM

Same as every time I've been there. Great LAN, but fukn hell.. Deoderant people!!!! Do it faggots! I almost dry reached when some bloke came past smelling like a garbage truck after stopping past maccas.

Maybe make it a requirement? lol

tl:dr - V17 was gg but too many smelly peeps

Posted by: SirSquidness Jul 6 2010, 03:36 PM

With such late notice, very few of the extra people will ever show up. It's been done before quite a few times. We were almost spot on with our predictions. \o/



Nope. GameStah weren't broadcasting over the network. They were recording and uploading to their website.




On behalf of everyone, I would like to reiterate this.

Posted by: Jeffy Jul 6 2010, 03:42 PM

Even if they were, they would be UDP casting, and we had protection measures in place that meant you only saw that data if you asked for it. (The same went for the VLC Soccer stream oohms so kindly casted for all to see if that was your interest. (R4N, Zardoz and Miniwalks made sure the Cisco gear was configured to ensure this happened).

Posted by: serpentine Jul 6 2010, 04:01 PM

This was my 4th Respawn and the worst not because of the organizers (they do a great job) but all the little babies yelling crap at the top of their voices.

I'm 32 years old so perhaps i'm getting too old but honestly i can remember being 18 and never being that much of a tool. My four friends and I were on the verge of boiling point in regards to the pointless screaming etc. I understand the intensity of gaming and excitement of killing / defeating your opposition and I’ve been known to yell a thing or two myself but I am now (have always been) aware and considerate of the people surrounding me.

I went home around 2am with a splitting headache. and I can say the turkey's sitting around the back corner in the isle / corridor away from the main area you were "THIS CLOSE" to having you keyboards wrapped around your necks. The only reason i didn't was because i "might consider" coming to respawn again and beating 6 little nerds to a pulp would perhaps see me barred from the event.

Just to make it clear who I was the 4th tall fit older guy from the wall in the corner. We warned you or your mates a few times again about yelling "p3n1s" and other shi1t out nothing at all to do with comps nothing to do with gaming nothing to do with anything except lack of maturity and consideration for others.

The overweight chick with the pink or orange dress and awful tatts you repulse me on every level you have the most vulgar and awful tone to your voice, no vocabulary and your were 98.689% responsible for my headache and early departure. You came and sat next to me as your CSS was not working (just to be clear on who you are) If you want to yell penis over and over again stay home....I had brand new headphones on, with the sound up full with Pantera on in the background and you still managed to penetrate and completely pierce my ear drums. Seriously grow up or at the very least make an attempt to consider others.

The guy with the 46" Sony who decided to play Band Hero... your mates were nice guys and you're probably an OK guy overall but honestly try to have some consideration for others, the noise was impossible to block from our headphones and having 3 of you standing with your Bum's against my friends back (for them) was nothing short of annoying again they were very close to boiling point.

Apart from that and some steam related issue's that my friends had I personally had an OK time.

Just some general advice to others...... I have allot of experience in living at festivals, raves, bush doofs and lots of Hiking and camping in remote area’s with small medium and large groups of people etc and the common thread between these events that "Work" and the events that don't work is people not considering their surrounding environment and more importantly people not considering the people around them.

An occasional in game “scream” no worries, after all we are there to play, but keep the volume reasonable.... but the jokers yelling penis for the sake of it stay home.

We are not at school, this is a fun event there is no teacher or for that matter no real security that i could see.... so consider where you are, who is around you and what "cause and effect" will result in your next action....

Posted by: Jeffy Jul 6 2010, 04:28 PM

If they are using speakers, grab one of the admins from the front desk and they'll investigate it 9Tank would be the best person. or R4n or Zardoz if she is busy).

Have a look in the gaming thread, I've written a small post on how to try to combat the issue the best we can


Actually, whilst they are not visibly present with laminated numbers. One of the admin's and a close friend of the admin team are both registered and appropriately licensed security personnel who can step in and act as security if the need rises. This hasn't happened in the years I've attended events there and in the 5 Respawn events I've helped run. But its there IF its needed.

Posted by: I.esus Jul 6 2010, 04:34 PM

Serpentine, you sound like the kind of guy I could get along with.

I'm 27, half way to 28, and I hate all the things you mentioned in your post (and like Pantera ).
I was getting real angry at the guys behind me, as I stated in this thread already, yelling stupid shit out to the people making announcements, and yelling at each other, even though they were 1-2 seats away from each other.

Most of that stuff is completely unneccesary... and really made me hate where I was sitting.

Posted by: Jeffy Jul 6 2010, 04:45 PM

As a community we're getting old. I'm 26 so I'm certainly up there. I'm very much of the same opinion. Sure during a heated battle you'll yell some profanity and what not. But I don't see the value in yelling it continually. In some cases it adds to the atmosphere, in others it does not. A suggestion might be to politely tap on the persons shoulder and explain. I must admit, at 4am it was deathly quiet with the exception of the fan's humming from PC cooling. Quietest I've ever heard it sitting up at night

Posted by: serpentine Jul 6 2010, 04:47 PM

I understand, I realize we had options of asking the already busy staff to come and sort out people etc... THe point to my post was for the people who are causing the problems to be more "self aware"


Yes my friends and I understand we are all Network / Comms / Systems Engineers..... we required steam online for an obscure game we tried to play and the choice to go "back online" was the only way to sort the issue, but as many others once we tried to go back online we lost our credientials so going back "offline" took some time but we got there in the end... The steam thing was not a big deal probably chewed up an hour of gaming time but thems the break. We do normally bring our own wireless dongle for these issue's but we all managed to forget them.



Yeah for sure no doubt you guys have got it covered. As i said we chose not to take action into our own hands as we are most of the time fairly mature people but again not a threat but the people envolved need to consider others. It should not have to be about dobbing and teacher student go to the corner type stuff. We had a polite word in my mind that should have been enough.... Too much sugar...

Anyways to the organizers, Tank etc really happy with everything (hoodie is great!! ..... )

To the Tools yelling out... try to lower the volume and consider others next time round....

Thanks Jeffy

Posted by: serpentine Jul 6 2010, 04:54 PM

Agreed mate we generally pick that back corner as it's away from the general noise.... It's a shame for me that an hour or two after i left the place was ghost town.... I just couldn't stand it anymore....

Anyways the other respawns I have had a much more enjoyable time hence why i keep comming back.... I'm going to put this one behind me and hope the next one brings more joy for my friends and I.

See ya at the next one maybe...

Posted by: Danog Jul 6 2010, 05:31 PM

That's what you think...

Posted by: xevious Jul 6 2010, 05:59 PM

serpentine:

your going to get shouting nomater where you sit... it died down eventualy

=\

Posted by: Queen Gainer Jul 6 2010, 06:02 PM

I don't really have much input this time, but just wanted to point out this paragraph. I will now investigate who it was, since it clearly was not me. (My dress was black, and wasn't yelling penis every fives seconds. Derp.)

Apart from that, it wasn't all that bad... Except I didn't know how to play 2/3 of the Girl's comp games. And the game I did know how to play wasn't what I was expecting (I miss GG ;-; )

Posted by: I.esus Jul 6 2010, 06:34 PM

If I can get a seat reserved along the left edge of the hall (for wheel room) I'll bring my G25 again and hit you up on DC so you can give it a whirl with that stand.

If all goes well I'll have a new 27" monitor by then (depending on tax return) so it won't be as painful as a 22".


I think everybody is aware of that, but there's a point where it's just too much... and too many people are going beyond that point and annoying others around them without any consideration. I believe that's roughly the point he was making.

(PS: Proof-reading is your friend!)

Posted by: SirSquidness Jul 6 2010, 06:57 PM

Pro-tip:

People are annoying, no matter where you sit, but the douche-bag-itis tends to infect fewer people the closer to the admin desk you are. Maybe they're scared we'll yell penis back at them? (... over the PA?)

Posted by: drunkees Jul 6 2010, 07:35 PM

use the p.a to help locate the individuals so that they may be nerfed.. and then nerfed again!

but seriously i reckon excessive "dickheadery" warrants a 2 or 3 strike system then banned.. PERMA BANNED

Posted by: I.esus Jul 6 2010, 08:02 PM

^ So everyone blowing those annoying horns and shooting nerf guns gets 1 strike already?

Posted by: Shub0xx Jul 6 2010, 08:41 PM

Now I don't think that would work too well considering quite a few of the Nerf shooters were admins.

Posted by: drunkees Jul 6 2010, 08:53 PM

nerf guns were fine. I even got hit by a stray one and dont mind watching the odd rampage.
vuvu's as was mentioned earlier probly wont be seen again

i just mean the retarded individuals who are for whatever reason being found annoying by a majority of others should b warned and banned if they insist on being immature dickholes

Posted by: Rangers Jul 6 2010, 09:17 PM

I'll be honest sure there are people who shout alot, i do it too, but honestly i'm hearing alot of grumpy old men talk :>

Get some proper noise cancelling headphones if you can hear people through them. Sure if people are playing consoles and intruding on your space that's fair enough get them dealt with, but shouting and such is expected and always happens it's just the nature of the majority of the crowd no matter what game or age. So honestly, reading the posts on complaining about noise and such is almost as bad as the noise..
If you are going to complain about noise and profanity then be consistent and complain about the utter shit and rudeness and penis on DC, i like to think people at respawn are pretty much chill and it's fun to muck around specially because you can bullshit and people bullshit with you.
Just deal with it and move on lol.

As for lights, sure 2am is a fine time but need to make sure the major comps are done before that gets done. IMO i would like to say i know for a fact that the tf2 comp wasn't done by 2am, it had hardly started so the lights should have been on longer. The light were off well before the comp finished. TF2 seems to be a comp which no matter how popular it gets it gets pushed on the back burner.
If you can't sleep with lights on buy one of those things that go over your eyes or just take them from an airline :>. There is so much ambient light in the place anyway.

I also noticed that this time there were a LOT more people gone by sunday morning so moving a major comp like TF2 to then would surely kill it.

The lan was fine sure it had it's issues but i know i enjoyed myself thoroughly. I think the key is (for grumpy people young and old ) to just let things go? Try to loosen up or wrap yourselves in sound proof bubble wrap and then attend, (once again bullshitting don't take things so seriously)

Deodorant! Maybe you should add deodorants to the list of things that are sold at respawn like mini travel ones :>

-Rangers

Posted by: Wombie Jul 6 2010, 09:29 PM

i still say Respawn v# Vitamin D for Deoderant, promotes sunshine and deoderant :3

Posted by: Rangers Jul 6 2010, 09:30 PM

I say wombie should actually attend respawn in the capacity of a player :>

Posted by: That Commander Jul 6 2010, 09:41 PM

I have to say I really enjoyed the lan this time round

The hourly fun comps are great

I do have two suggestions however

First

The Respawn Notifier is a great idea, but perhaps what players also need is a similar system to advertise that they are running a particular game server. I read in this thread that that gamers had to walk around to see what other people were playing.

For example, if I were to run an Unreal Tournament server, but don't want to sit in the lobby waiting for someone to join, it would be good to be notified that people want to join it, but until I get a notification I can go about other things.

On the flip side, people register their interest in particular games and are notified that a server is running so they can join.

Does this make sense? Would you find this useful? A sort of game lobby/notifier so people know what's being played (besides CS).

I believe the current method is to announce over DC and hope it is noticed between the constant stream of nonsense and policy speeches by "Julia Gillard (PM)".

Second

My friend insisted we join in a CS team this lan. Our first match was against Sublime, and of course we got thoroughly beaten. I swear they had synchronised flashbangs. Anyway...

I second the idea of an "amateur" CS competition but with the following suggestions:

• No prize - competitive teams won't bother joining unless they really like fighting amateurs for no prize money.
• It is not organised by admins, but by the people who are interested in said amateur competition.

My $0.02 + GST.

Looking forward to the next lan.

Posted by: xevious Jul 6 2010, 09:42 PM

+1 for rangers reply.

AND:


Also what realy pissed me off was dickheads in the cod comp.

you get strays jumping into the servers.

may i suggest that a password could be implimented to prevent such a massive waste of time

i had two people that couldnt join my server because we had two idiots in the server, went and told admins and they were still there, had to go tell admins a second time, then my other two members could jump in.

password protection :told to the two competing teams prehaps?

Posted by: Rangers Jul 6 2010, 09:47 PM

+1 for xevious reply.

Posted by: xevious Jul 6 2010, 09:57 PM

Why thank you mr rangers...

even password protect all the comps b/c saves all the fuss of kicking ppl

Posted by: dead_man Jul 6 2010, 09:58 PM

crap there goes the admin team!

Posted by: Rangers Jul 6 2010, 10:02 PM

Holy shit dead man did you just make a joke about srs buisness? That's banned you're on 1 strike!

Posted by: Rangers Jul 6 2010, 10:23 PM

Just wanted to point out that saying that you were "THIS CLOSE" to doing something like that doesn't seem to bode well with me and if you are having thoughts like that, that maybe next time you should reconsider your attendance to respawn on the basis that you might not be able to control yourself. Most of us can have fun and be loud and be annoying to each other without things getting physical. If you feel that you are going to hulk out at someone with computer hardware please seriously reconsider your attendance, im not sure if i would feel safe knowing that you might not be able to control yourself.

Also new headphones fair enough but if you want to 'cancel noise' please make sure to actually buy 'noise cancelling' headphones. I would also like to say that i don't know the people you were talking about in your post but it really gets to me when people just can't get along. Being over 30 you should have learnt to tolerate things and idiots by now.

that is all

Posted by: Autofix Jul 6 2010, 10:24 PM

/agree. Maybe something like steam friends but without the steam, or the friends, just individual channels for each game that alerts you when people start playing a game from that channel you are in, and allows you to chat to other people in that channel.

Posted by: Jinky Jul 7 2010, 03:34 AM

Great as usual guys.

Only thing was network speeds were slow as hell, max I saw was 20MB/s off 2 people, was around 2 - 4 MB/s off everyone else.

V16 and 15 was mostly ~30-40MB/s and every so often a speed of 70 - 80 MB/s

Otherwise, keep up the great job

Posted by: Wombie Jul 7 2010, 10:19 AM

To be honest drunkee's 'dickheadery' is part of what makes a lan into a good lan. Lans's are about having fun with your mates, playing some good games, and generally enjoying yourself.
Maybe it should be 1 strike to all the holier than thou straight faces for being such party killers.

Major lesson to take away: Lighten up, we're there to have fun

Posted by: SirSquidness Jul 7 2010, 11:06 AM

That's more than enough to play games.

Posted by: Maelstrom Jul 7 2010, 11:27 AM

You realise that noise cancelling headphones are only for constant background noise right? For example, the hum of 400 computers' fans going at top speed. Unless the people yelling penis were doing it non-stop, I don't think it would have helped. Especially if he was right next to them.



How about... IRC? It has channels and everything! People could pay attention to it for announcements and notifications of who was playing what, and could even make separate rooms for their friends or people they're playing with.

There is a small learning curve there, and people have to install the software. But I believe it was mentioned a while back that a browser-based client might be able to be implemented on the intranet site.

Posted by: xbox_girl Jul 7 2010, 12:49 PM

I also confirm that is was not me (i was in a Choose your own weapon t-shirt, Transformers hoodie and jeans) or Caylem (STFU Jumper)... did anyone ever find out who the chick in the white beanie was?? lol She was the talk of DC++ for like 5 hours...

Also, whoever mentioned that they left early because of headaches, i did the same.. I left at 8pm with a massive headache and little downloaded.. I think my network port thingy was a little dodgy as anytime one of the guys sitting on the hub table breathed it got knocked out.. causing me to have to get up and shove it back in or getting someone to do it for me. My apologies to the guys on that table (Possibly the Hindenberg Ground Crew?) I'm sure you got sick of me/Ceno interrupting you...

I would also like to point out the yelling was a little OTT... and I'm 23.. not old by a long shot.. and even i got sick of hearing "F'ing F&GGOT" or " F'ing C#NT" or any of the other 10 varieties every 5 seconds from the same group... I respect others in their choice of gaming vocabulary however, whether it be that i am entering the "old" crowd or merely brought up differently, it did get a little repetitive and at some times just plain unacceptable. Again, I am not having a go at those that choose to yell and scream, just providing a little feedback. i also know that admins cannot possibly police this, it's just not possible in a crowd of that size... though past experiences has proven that a nice PM to an admin is usually enough to get the culprit to realise they are bothering others. It may not happen immediately, however it does happen..

Overall I enjoyed this lan... it was a shame i had to bail early, but with a little bit of skill and a whole lot of luck next lan will be just as good, if not better..

Also, I think Nerf guns should make an appearance at the next lan... i got hit plenty of times and were able to shoot off a few rounds myself.. Note to those that oppose, sit at the back in the corner to ensure you are not affected by the nerf-i-ness.

*hugs*

Sammie

Posted by: xbox_girl Jul 7 2010, 12:52 PM

Oh And Kudos to Tank for the wares! Love the hoodie... you didn't have diet coke though

Posted by: Dekar Jul 7 2010, 01:10 PM

had a good time... tf2 had over 100 participants at one point! damn you 2am start... if this could be fixed somehow this would be teh win

Posted by: Tank Jul 7 2010, 02:08 PM

We did have a slab, but it was in the back room until i brought it out.

(also, the drinks NOT in the fridge were as cold as the drinks IN the fridge O_o)

(oh and i thought we had 2 slabs, but one was coke zer and pepsi INSIDE a diet coke box. wth! lol)


and yea, hoodies are THE best decision ever. I have two now! :3

Posted by: xbox_girl Jul 7 2010, 03:02 PM

Might I suggest Zipper hoodies next time? i got too hot and ended taking mine off and sticking with my transformer zipper hoodie.. lol

Posted by: priorax Jul 7 2010, 03:16 PM

+1
+2 if I have a job then

Posted by: Rangers Jul 7 2010, 07:47 PM

Totally.

MORE GAMES LESS LEECHING YOU LEECHERS. YOU ARE STEALING BANDWIDTH FROM MY GAMING WHICH AFFECTS MY GAMES

Posted by: That Commander Jul 7 2010, 08:05 PM

I had not thought of IRC since I have about zero experience with it. Also, the idea was not really to provide chat facilities, but simple notifications like the Respawn Notifier.

However IRC could serve the purpose as long as a there is free client which will provide some sort of popup or sound notification (ie MSN/Windows Live). Otherwise, you will have to poll the channels for updates, which this idea is trying to avoid.

Cheers

Posted by: Sarge Jul 7 2010, 10:20 PM

I've been coming to these lans ever since Respawn Pirates. Every time it gets better, (with exception that with > people means no more dedicated console gaming like we had in the beginning with networked xboxes and guitar hero. Should definetely bring it back).

I would like to bring to everyones attention the fact that there are viruses on some people’s pcs at the lan.

I always virus scan my pc with up to date antivirus to ensure it is clean and no risk to other users. I contracted a virus during the night (I didn’t even open an application) and I had to cut my lan short and go home which I didn’t want to do. I wasted my money and time all because someone didn’t keep his pc clean.

The virus was a self multiplying one called w32.rontokbro@mm. I have spent 4 days trying to clean my pc, I think it is done now but I’m scared to connect to the internet.

The admins must do something about this. When e-mail reminders go out to confirm and news items go up about new lans they should include a sentence stressing that people must virus scan their pc with up to date antivirus. And include it somewhere on the website.

It’s mainly for the lazy people or new people to respawn lan but it is important. This is not the first time a virus has been at the lan. Remember a while a go someones pc had a virus causing problems with the network. So people need to be reminded!

Posted by: Jeffy Jul 7 2010, 10:20 PM

IRC does serve a purpose. I'm building an IRC server on my test machine at home (however the HDD died so now it's "virtual" until I fix it. Currently it'll do all of that. MIRC is free and does have the ability to alert through flashing and noise, but unless you configure it, it wont.

IRC is really just another platform WE CAN/WE WILL support because we run it. I'll get it working and give the configuration to orsm sando to put into the main server we have or we'll do something but I'd like to see it working because I've got it working at home for the LAN

Posted by: OM NOM NOM Jul 7 2010, 11:14 PM

This was my first Lan, loved it.
CoD tournie needed to start earlier, same with Quake.
Especially Quake. Sunday? Most people left then.
The notifications should of been better, cause I was rather confused because of delays and stuff (not that I could play the games, cause my laptop could only leech... just) kinda missed out on the girls comp cause of that.

&&& We need more Nerfness.

Hahaha, That would be Rach.
i Lol'd when all the guys were spectating her in the girls comp.


+1

Posted by: Syk0 Jul 7 2010, 11:32 PM

Hey.

First Time going to Respawn. Had Great fun, Made some new friends, which is what i look for in a lan.

Overall it was good, except for the COD comp, When we where apparently Vsing Team Legacy and we ended up waiting over 20 minuets for the scrim, which in end apparently was a muck up in the group matches.
I reckon a set rules should be compulsory to read.
And that if a team doesn't show up after 10 minutes the Four fit.
anyway Was great got heaps of gaming done. Couple of new games and what not.

Cheers fellas.

EDIT - toose log out of my account plox.

Posted by: dead_man Jul 8 2010, 04:49 AM

First things first

IRC

we actually run an IRC server at the lan that can easily be access through our web based IRC client in the EMS. its simple to use even for the beginners. will make sure its easier to find next event.

VIRUS

whilst we recommend everyone runs A/V software there are many things that can be done to minimise this problem.

1st: turn off windows file sharing! especially if you have write access enabled!.

2nd: since none of the admin/gopher team seem'ed to cop the virus i can only assume that its either come from DC++ or let in via a poorly configured A/V software. and im willing to bet it was DC++.

whilst Respawn LAN no longer supports it i cannot stress enough if you are going to share files at ANY LAN expect to cop a virus! i can only assume that you have downloaded something that was infected and compromised your PC.

PS: get a better AV!

-Dead_Man

Posted by: MiniWalks Jul 8 2010, 09:16 AM

Just something to note,

To the best of my knowledge, the cooling system was never turned on. we intermittently turn the fans on, but this is required due to smell, and also due to OH&S to keep fresh air moving through the venue.

In regards to the streaming,

We had 2 streams going at the event,
1 with the TV
1 with gamestah (atleast it was planned for them to be streamed)

With regard to the high traffic load,

It is an issue that we are looking into, we did have multicast snooping on this event, but this relies on the application sending the traffic actually marking it correctly, but it is known about, and is being looked into.

+1 to what dead_man said, get good AV, turn off ALL windows FS if in doubt.

Posted by: fletchdawg Jul 8 2010, 06:04 PM

need to have IRC to contact admins ASAP instead of people @ the opposite end of the venue constantly having to walk back and forth

Posted by: priorax Jul 8 2010, 07:02 PM

Even with IRC, that doesn't mean instant contact to admins as they have their admin duties to preform. You could always post a thread on the EMS forums or PM them on that with your message to them

Posted by: Debus Jul 8 2010, 11:13 PM

No they're not, they're at basically every toy shop you go into... I know for a fact they have them in Toys R Us.

Posted by: dead_man Jul 9 2010, 07:10 AM

trust me, that won't solve a thing, I hardly ever use irc at LANs and when I do I only look every few hours

-dead_man

Posted by: Deka Jul 9 2010, 06:05 PM

I vote that if someone has a virus track them down and boot them out i only recently reformatted and i got one

Posted by: I.esus Jul 11 2010, 05:06 PM

Or you could get a decent scanner that picks things up before they have a chance to infect.
I've been using ESET Smart Security (paid for it) for 3 years, never had an issue, not at home, not at LANs.

Posted by: Chopz Jul 11 2010, 09:43 PM

ive had just the same luck with Microsoft Security Essentials, which is free, it detected 2 or 3 things but deleted them before they did anything

My point is, it doesnt help any, you saying that you hvae good results with eset, being 1) paid and 2) one of the best av's out there. because most of the people at respawn that do end up getting virus's are... how would i say... not inclined to pay for an AV

Posted by: priorax Jul 11 2010, 09:58 PM

Avast LiveCD
Best anti-virus I have ever used

Posted by: TechL Jul 12 2010, 12:07 AM

Avast LiveCD?

I'm using Avast and it's doing an excellent job for me, very rarely encounter a virus threat, and in the case that I do, avast kicks in.

Posted by: priorax Jul 12 2010, 09:05 AM

The live cd is basicly a linux livecd which runs avast
You can find them for most anti-virus programs
They are a fair bit more affective (in my oppinion) then other programs as you don't load an operating system off a harddrive where your OS is stored.

Posted by: TechL Jul 12 2010, 09:29 AM

Oh okay, fair enough.

Posted by: I.esus Jul 12 2010, 12:47 PM

Maybe it's time they started... it has cost me less every year I renewed. $30 this year. Awesome price.

Posted by: Sarge Jul 12 2010, 03:18 PM

The point I was trying to make was make it obvious when people register that they should virus scan their pcs before attending. Logic follows that if everyone scans and has clean pc's then the lan would be virus free.
(obviously may be some viruses not picked up due to different AV software), but it still would limit risk to attendees at a LAN

Posted by: Glasseater Jul 12 2010, 04:35 PM

no matter how you look at things if you get a virus its your fault for downloading the wrong thing there is always goin to be stupid ppl getting virus you will never be able to get everyone to scan just act like everyone else has a virus and you should be fine

Posted by: Tank Jul 12 2010, 06:09 PM

this is an amazing piece of advice. instead of assuming people have clean computers, assume they don't.

Posted by: SirSquidness Jul 12 2010, 07:40 PM

Someone get this man a nobel prize. I don't care which one.

Posted by: R4N Jul 12 2010, 08:06 PM

My anti-virus is common sense.
Anything else just slows down my machine.

Posted by: Frookie Jul 12 2010, 09:38 PM

even with anti-virus some computers will still be damaged because there is no cure for the rage virus

Posted by: Plasia Jul 12 2010, 11:53 PM

I've been going to respawn for a while now and it's a great event that I always look forward to. Since I am an organiser for a large monthly gaming event (and an extra large annual national) I am fully aware of all the pressures and restrictions that the organisers must face when trying to please everyone. Thus I have tried to cushion my suggestions with potential solutions that would make the admins life easier.

TF2 Problem
TF2 runs stupidly late, even though a lot of people want to play it (more than CSS). It was also single elim which pretty much guarantees that some teams wont have a fun close game. To top it off the prize was less than awe-inspiring, as first place I didn't get much and I'm pretty sure second place didn't get anything at all, they deserved something for being a good team that gave us the closest TF2 Grand Finals we have ever had. The problem is essentially that TF2 was shafted by multiple elements and was not given a chance to shine.

I also noticed that TF2 was delayed largely by a certain racing game with such bad netcode that people were struggling to even see a server... with delays for over an hour.

Solution
Firstly certain racing games that delay everything else should not be played unless it's 90+% certain that whatever the heck was going wrong is now resolved and it can run smoothly.

Secondly TF2 needs to be given the exposure it deserves. I think even a start at 10:30/11 would be exponentially better.

RTS Problem
I did make a small attempt to convey to the admins that I wish we still did a warcraft 3 tournament. I was told that if I could get the numbers then it could be back on. I really liked playing Warcraft 3 at respawn but unfortunately the stupidly early time ruined it for a lot of people.

Solution
RTS is gaining momentum with the upcoming release of Starcraft 2. I propose that we run Warcraft 3 or Age of Conquers (AoK, AoE2, whatever acronym you want for it) starting at around 4pm. With a later start the tournament wont be shafted by a too early start time and will get the numbers needed for a successful tournament.

No one to run it Problem
It's my opinion that the organisers of respawn have enough on their plate already and are probably ready to dismiss my suggestions on such a basis, and justifiably so.

Solution
I have no problems running the brackets for both TF2 and Warcraft 3. I have been running tournaments for years so it's really no problem for me, I know what to do.

Hype Generating Suggestion
Hype is an important ingredient in making a good gaming event a great one.

I'd suggest that you let the grand final match be on the big projector with full sound and commentary. It is an exhilarating experience to have a crowd watching you play. A lot of gamers feed on hype and can pull out their best plays with a crowd, this in turn makes memorable moments. I know this because it has been demonstrated many times at the events that I run. Also there's nothing stopping people who don't want to watch from putting on their headphones and not watching.

Posted by: dead_man Jul 13 2010, 12:16 AM

We found it very hard to justify a larger prizepool for TF2 for V17 due to a very poor turnout for V16 (think 5 team) even with my scheduling it for 9pm, after the last event we have really seen the potential such a game can have, and as such been re-evaluating our position on it. Scheduling the Comp earlier was imo actually counter productive and lowered the team's participating.

as far as that certain racing game, we have never really ever had any major issues with it in the past. hopefully we dont in future either.



The main reason for taking War3 out of the line-up was dwindling support from the community, with an average of 4-6 people competing due to other comp's getting in the way. running starcraft on the sunday however has been very successful and will continue. I hope to see some big things from SC2 once it's finally released



We did this at V16 with mixed results, whilst we got a few that loved it, we got an equal amount of people that disliked it. again, we are looking into a solution to please both crowd's.

-Dead_Man
Respawn LAN Team

Posted by: I.esus Jul 13 2010, 12:39 PM

Maybe stream the match video to the projector and have an audio stream people can put to their headphones via their own PC? Dunno if that's possible or not.

I recall most people hating the loud commentary over the hall last time, not so much the video on the projector.

Posted by: Glasseater Jul 13 2010, 12:55 PM

yeah the commentary is annoying watching it is fine but as I.esus said if ya could stream that would be fine

Posted by: Tank Jul 13 2010, 01:02 PM

Imho, if we streamed the video, and had an audio stream people could listen to on the EMS or intranet, that would be the 'best of both worlds'.

Posted by: Sarge Jul 13 2010, 06:50 PM

"RTS Problem
I did make a small attempt to convey to the admins that I wish we still did a warcraft 3 tournament. I was told that if I could get the numbers then it could be back on. I really liked playing Warcraft 3 at respawn but unfortunately the stupidly early time ruined it for a lot of people."


I agree. We once had Red alert 3 comp. We should get that running next lan, even if it is a fun comp

Posted by: priorax Jul 13 2010, 08:10 PM

I think one of the other main issues with RTS games is the time required to play a good game can vary quite alot, so it is hard to fit into a tournament timetable, compared to games like CS where you can have a set time when the server will end

Posted by: Plasia Jul 14 2010, 09:07 AM

That's right priorax, that's why I'm not suggesting TA or Supreme Commander I think Age of Kings might go for too long as well.

However I think running an age of kings FFA fun comp would be mad fun awesome, I'm happy to run this

Warcraft 3 takes about half the time as most RTS games, so it's most suited in my opinion for a tournament.

Posted by: Glasseater Jul 14 2010, 10:26 AM

warcraft 3 just hasnt had the interest ive been goin to respawn since the beginning and it has been on early before and been fine but there is not the interest there once was.
The focus of a lot of players at the moment is towards FPS and thats just a shift of interest. Hopefully starcraft 2 will bring it back as long as there is some kind of work around for lan play.
The original starcraft is the most suited rts to a tournament i think but war3 and aoe3 also good. It worked well as a fun comp and got a bit of interest for something that was done the next morning when most ppl had left.

Posted by: BRUTALiTY Jul 14 2010, 01:42 PM

An enjoyable LAN, plagued only perhaps by issues outside the control of the admins, i.e - Steam, which as mentioned was purely unfortunate timing. Most of the games I wanted to play, I had bought recently through Steam in the sale - just bad luck I guess. However, Sando, thanks a tonne for allowing me to update through your 3G connection. Once this was done, I was able to commence gaming finally!

If it were not for the issues caused by Steam, the LAN would have been quite what I usually expected, just a whole lot of fun

I can't remember if this was mentioned now that I think about it, but a bigger breakky in the morning wouldn't go astray - though I realise this is rather complimentary so thanks for the sausages and bread either way! A hot breakfast always goes down a treat!

I look forward to the next, and hope that Steam can maybe schedule it's updates at another time!

Oh and btw, what was the Lego parody on Youtube being screened on the projector towards the end of the LAN. Been meaning to find it but can't remember what it was called?! Provided many lols

Posted by: oohms Jul 14 2010, 10:35 PM

Steam is always annoying - i had forgotten to update before i came and none of my source based games worked so i gave up
Scheduling comps is always a pain because there is so many games, and so little time

Posted by: Plasia Jul 14 2010, 11:36 PM

The thing is it was on way too early, a lot of the people who would play can't when it starts at 12 and they aren't even there or set up.

Given that Starcraft 2 will be out by the next lan I think WC3 might be a lost cause, instead let's move the suggestion to a Age of Kings FFA funcomp. I would love to dominate an intense 45 minute FFA and hold my glorious victory can of coke on high.

Posted by: Kitfox Jul 16 2010, 03:43 PM

Starcraft 2 will change respawn as we know it